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msg #27088
Ignore todddunning
6/26/2003 1:08:58 PM

Acervapsych - Boing is testing well. Today was a good day in the markets anyway, but my one-day test so far on Boing is up 2.2% midday.

I test-played all 5 retrieved picks and entered before mkt open at the previous close price. I guess you could do what shelshel does and place a market order the night before.

I run several test portfolios all day on variations of Muddy, shelshel and now yours. The others were red.

What you are doing with Boing is solving a problem I have had with the Muddy filter; one knows that a bottom has been reached, but you're never quite sure if you're about to bounce, go sideways, or even continue the drop. Because Muddy gives you such an early signal, I am often having to wait a few days before the bounce occurs, and I often stop out beforehand.

With Boing you are sacrificing the gain of the first day's bounce, but at least you are in the bounce for sure, and to me that is a safer play at least at this early stage.

Muddy, forgive me, but my timing and forecasting skills will have to develop before I can go earlier in the cycle and play your Method better, for higher returns.

39 posts
msg #27141
Ignore acervapsych
7/1/2003 8:05:31 PM

Thx for the feedback and I appreciate the tweaking suggestions. People, particularly nubies tend to look for a Guru who knows all. They are looking for the Holy Grail (no offense HG!). They're hoping they can just plug in a filter, quit their jobs, and retire in Bora Bora. Call it Fortune Cookie Finance. 50 heads are better than one so if my BOINGIES are working well let's play with them and see what we see. This may be a bit redundant but I created a Yahoo Group for a friend and myself. Anyone interested can join:

61 posts
msg #27142
Ignore jim_c_hill
7/1/2003 8:37:41 PM

Boing is definitely a great filter. I tried it on my test date of May 3, 2003, and it gives positive results in first weeks, which very few filters can do. I looked at other down periods and it seems to work fairly well, or at least keeping loss minimal.

Great job.
Jim Hill

61 posts
msg #27143
Ignore jim_c_hill
7/1/2003 9:08:47 PM

Correction: Date of check is May 3, 2002.

39 posts
msg #27145
Ignore acervapsych
7/1/2003 9:39:30 PM

Now in regards to the methodology of BOING Trading...

I'd like to hear thoughts and maybe we can do some backtesting on which of these two strategies has the best risk/reward profile:

1) After viewing the charts for the day's BOING hits, trade the one or two that you think look best...


2) Divy up your dinero and buy equal positions in ALL the stocks generated by the filter.

Assuming the filter is consitently fetching more winners than losers and assuming the winners are on average up by a larger percent than the losers are down perhaps it's best to go this route...take the guess work out of it as opposed to encountering a scenario where your 2 favorite picks happen to be the only two that go down...


39 posts
msg #27146
Ignore acervapsych
7/1/2003 9:48:27 PM

Ah yes, and another would be interested to analyse the biggest winners being generated by the filter and look for common denominators....(e.g. do higher volume stocks consitently outperform?). Another fruitful exercise might be to run the hits through TradeTrek's 5-Day Neural Net prognisticator to get another perspective. Here's the link...substitute the ticker your interested in for QQQ.

And actually that gives me yet another thought. How about comparing performance of BOING stocks during periods when the QQQs and/or DIA are oversold and look ripe for a bounce of thier own?? Blah, Blah, Blah....carry on!

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msg #31281
Ignore gscott66
3/4/2004 10:12:09 PM


235 posts
msg #31288
Ignore cegis
3/5/2004 8:42:38 AM

Hey, xplorer, (or Tom,)

I've tried to use Fetcher[] in the past, but it didn't come up as a link in the post. Is there some syntax restrictions to make this work? It's been a while since I've tried, but two possibilities that I might have mussed up on are (a) I put each phrase on a different line for readability, and (b) I don't think I made the Fetcher[] it's own paragraph. Are either of these (all one line & it's own paragraph) required? Anything else necessary?

I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem, as I've seen other posts with an "unlinked" Fetcher[] phrase in them. Thanks for the help!


257 posts
msg #31296
Ignore xplorer
3/5/2004 6:08:49 PM

There is a bug when using the
Fetcher[ ]

to display a screen ... it won't be "clikable" if you use the "<" or ">" ... you have to spell it out (even though the filter will work otherwise in your "My Filters").

here is the NON "clikable" syntax:

Fetcher[volume > 100000]

... and the same to make it work:

Fetcher[volume is greater than 1000000]

... hope this helps.

235 posts
msg #31300
Ignore cegis
3/5/2004 7:58:52 PM


Thanks for the info. To be honest, it was a while ago that I tried, so I don't know if I used > or <. I'll keep that in mind, though...


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