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Kevin_in_GA
4,548 posts
msg #78632
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9/4/2009 2:52:45 PM

KEV, I TRIED PUTTING THE BELOW IBD LIST, , INTO A WATCHLIST, CALLED "KEV" AND RAN THE BACKTEST, OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS, WITH ONLY, APPLY WATCHLIST(KEV), AND GOT BETTER RESULTS THAN INCLUDING YOUR OR ANY FILTER. HAVE YOU TRIED THIS. MY REASONING WAS THAT THE IBD ON IT'S OWN IS A GREAT BUY.
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Chet: are you saying that you tested a buy and hold strategy for these stocks?

hawkeyes002
49 posts
msg #78643
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9/4/2009 5:42:34 PM

hey kevin where did you get those stocks that you are currently in? this is the filter right? i see a few of the ones that you bought but most of those i do not see

/*BOLLINGER BAND BUY FILTER*/

CLOSE IS BELOW LOWER BOLLINGER BANDS(16,2.5)
and apply to watchlist(WL0,WL1,WL2)

chetron
2,817 posts
msg #78645
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modified
9/4/2009 5:57:18 PM

YES KEVIN. PLEASE IGNORE THE NOTED OUT OLD LIST, JUST TRIED TO SAVE TIME.....

I HAVE TIME NOW......


Entry Filter
WATCHLIST(KEV)

Basic Setup
Name: ***********************************IBD100
Approach Type: Long
Start Date: 08/31/2007
End Date: 09/03/2009
Benchmark Symbol: ^SPX

Exit Setup
Stop Loss: 10%
Profit Stop: 10%
Trailing Stop Loss: N/A
Minimum Holding Days: N/A
Maximum holding days: 25

Extra Indicators
Entry Columns:
Show Performance After: after 2 days
after 5 days
after 10 days
after 25 days
after 40 days


Advanced Options
Selection Method: select by volume descending
Entry Price: open
Conditional Entry: No
Exit Price: open
Maximum Trades Per Day: 25
Maximum Open Positions: 250
Maximum Selected Stocks: All

Approach Information
Approach Name: ***********************************IBD100
Test started on 08/31/2007 ended on 09/03/2009, covering 506 days
Filter used:
WATCHLIST(KEV)



Trade Statistics
There were 9949 total stocks entered. Of those, 9766 or 98.16% were complete and 183 or 1.84% were open.
Of the 9766 completed trades, 5044 trades or 51.65%resulted in a net gain.
Your average net change for completed trades was: 0.72%.
The average draw down of your approach was: -8.16%.
The average max profit of your approach was: 9.02%
The Reward/Risk ratio for this approach is: 1.15
Annualized Return on Investment (ROI): 24.11%, the ROI of ^SPX was: -15.22%.

Exit Statistics
Stop Loss was triggered 4352 times or 44.56% of the time.
Stop Profit was triggered 4661 times or 47.73% of the time.
Trailing Stop Loss was triggered 0 times or 0.00% of the time.
You held for the maximum period of time (25 days) 753 times or 7.71% of the time.
An exit trigger was executed 0 times or 0.00% of the time.

Transaction Summary
Daily Gains : $1325.66
Daily Losses : $1786.47
Running Gain/(Loss) : $26765.56
# Stocks held at end of day : 0

Summary
Invested In Stock: $0.00
Market Value of Stock: $0.00
Market Value - Invested: - $0.00
Available Cash: $126765.56
Total (Cash + Market): $126765.56





Kevin_in_GA
4,548 posts
msg #78658
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modified
9/4/2009 10:25:01 PM

26% for a year, before commissions on 9949 trades. That's a lot of work.


chetron
2,817 posts
msg #78661
Ignore chetron
9/4/2009 11:29:23 PM

BUT REMEMBER, ADDING A FILTER BRINGS IT DOWN TO -42% BEFORE COMMISSIONS. DO HAVE ANY SUGGESTION FOR THE SETTINGS I USED????

Kevin_in_GA
4,548 posts
msg #78678
Ignore Kevin_in_GA
modified
9/5/2009 9:59:51 AM

Just a guess on this:

1. If you completely remove the stop loss, what happens? Remember, these are solid stocks that over the time frame you used did quite well.

2. I like to use trailing stops over stop losses or profit stops - a 15% trailing stop might be interesting.



Kevin_in_GA
4,548 posts
msg #78679
Ignore Kevin_in_GA
modified
9/5/2009 10:16:08 AM

Just ran my BB filter with only a 20% profit stop as the exit. I like testing from 10/31/08 to 3/1/09 because this time was so bad - if a filter does well during this time frame, it probably will do OK on any time frame. Interesting results:

Approach Name: BOLLINGER BAND(16,2.5) IBD STOCKS
Test started on 10/31/2008 ended on 02/27/2009, covering 80 days

Trade Statistics
There were 118 total stocks entered. Of those, 68 or 57.63% were complete and 50 or 42.37% were open.
Of the 68 completed trades, 68 trades or 100.00%resulted in a net gain.
Your average net change for completed trades was: 21.61%.
The average draw down of your approach was: -15.26%.
The average max profit of your approach was: 27.45%
The Reward/Risk ratio for this approach is: 0.00
Annualized Return on Investment (ROI): 360.76%, the ROI of ^SPX was: -70.63%.

EQUITY SUMMARY:

Total (Cash + Market): $109337.67


Any filter that makes money during this time is probably a good one.

Kevin_in_GA
4,548 posts
msg #78704
Ignore Kevin_in_GA
modified
9/5/2009 6:33:40 PM

Testing code to put in a table of my Bollinger Band Stocks and how they are doing. Table seems to be at the bottom of the page - not sure why.

EDIT: deleted.



trendscanner
265 posts
msg #78744
Ignore trendscanner
9/7/2009 10:05:03 AM

Kevin_in_GA
- Ignore Kevin_in_GA
modified 9/5/2009 10:16:08 AM

Just ran my BB filter with only a 20% profit stop as the exit. I like testing from 10/31/08 to 3/1/09 because this time was so bad - if a filter does well during this time frame, it probably will do OK on any time frame. Interesting results:

Approach Name: BOLLINGER BAND(16,2.5) IBD STOCKS
Test started on 10/31/2008 ended on 02/27/2009, covering 80 days

Trade Statistics
There were 118 total stocks entered. Of those, 68 or 57.63% were complete and 50 or 42.37% were open.
Of the 68 completed trades, 68 trades or 100.00%resulted in a net gain.
Your average net change for completed trades was: 21.61%.
The average draw down of your approach was: -15.26%.
The average max profit of your approach was: 27.45%
The Reward/Risk ratio for this approach is: 0.00
Annualized Return on Investment (ROI): 360.76%, the ROI of ^SPX was: -70.63%.
================================================================================================


I spent some time backtesting various configurations of this filter. When I backtest this version:

Fetcher[
CLOSE IS BELOW LOWER BOLLINGER BANDS(16,2.5)
and apply to watchlist(IBD100)
]



during the time period 10/31/2008 through 3/3/2009, using a 10% stop loss and 20% stop profit, I get the following results

There were 78 total stocks entered. Of those, 59 or 75.64% were complete and 19 or 24.36% were open.
Of the 59 completed trades, 24 trades or 40.68%resulted in a net gain.
Your average net change for completed trades was: 1.71%.
The average draw down of your approach was: -9.85%.
The average max profit of your approach was: 12.16%
The Reward/Risk ratio for this approach is: 1.29
Annualized Return on Investment (ROI): 95.76%, the ROI of ^SPX was: -81.15%.

Not sure why my results weren't as good as yours. I'm wondering what version of the BB IBD filter you're running or what other settings you're applying during this time period to get the 100% net gain on the completed trades.

Thanks


Kevin_in_GA
4,548 posts
msg #78787
Ignore Kevin_in_GA
9/8/2009 12:06:16 PM

Eliminate any stop loss. You'll get much better results.

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