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abelincoln
126 posts
msg #89329
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3/9/2010 6:12:25 PM

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abelincoln
126 posts
msg #89334
Ignore abelincoln
3/9/2010 6:55:29 PM

Text of Gettysburg Address




Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate...we can not consecrate...we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Image from the battle of Gettysburg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Battle_of_Gettysburg.jpg


google:

"Some Gave All" by Billy Ray Cyrus
"G-d Bless The USA" by Lee Greenwood
listen to the words


Every soldier that wears the uniform
Every soldier who came home in part
Every soldier who can't sleep right anymore
Every soldier who don't think right no more
Every soldier that never made it home
Every Soldier...
Every Soldier...
Every Soldier

the price of freedom lest we forget
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"You don't have to believe in your government to be a good American. You just have to believe in your country. "

TheRumpledOne
6,358 posts
msg #89352
Ignore TheRumpledOne
3/10/2010 8:04:07 AM

chetron


i started working when i was 11, and i did my time in the military. anyone who says that a resident of this planet is illegally on "free" soil is just full of hate, which should be illegal.

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Let me make an assumption that you live in a house with a yard.

If one day you woke up and saw a " resident of this planet" had erected a tent in your yard while you were sleeping, I think you would do something about it. Maybe you would confront the "resident of this planet" or call the cops. I would wager the "resident of this planet " would not be allowed to remain in your yard. So what twist of logic makes you think ILLEGAL ALIENS should be allowed to remain in this country?







chetron
2,817 posts
msg #89366
Ignore chetron
3/10/2010 11:24:28 AM

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, ALL THE REPORTS I SEE ARE PULLING FOLKS FROM THEIR RENTED APARTMENTS, U.S. LANDLORDS BEING ENRICHED, OR FROM THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT, U.S. COMPANIES BEING ENRICHED. THE ONLY REPORT I HAVE EVER SEEN, AND IT WASN'T FINE TENTS, BUT CARDBOARD BOXES, OF FOLKS LIVING ELSE WISE WAS THE MIGRANTE PICKS LIVING IN THE DIRT OF THE FIELDS THEY WERE PICKING, I JUST ASSUMED IT WAS WITH THE FARMERS PERMISSION. YOU ARE TRYING TO DIG UP MINUTIA TO TRY TO COVER YOUR DEEP ENGROUNDED HATRED.


HTH



petrolpeter
439 posts
msg #89370
Ignore petrolpeter
3/10/2010 12:51:06 PM

Thats a nicely written sheet of paper Abe.We should use that up in Washington.

machismo
115 posts
msg #89371
Ignore machismo
3/10/2010 1:04:11 PM

looks like the small "s" was broken on that document and is spelled "f'.

petrolpeter
439 posts
msg #89406
Ignore petrolpeter
3/11/2010 4:07:50 AM

Those wooden keys on those old laptops never really did last.

crunkle
54 posts
msg #89435
Ignore crunkle
3/11/2010 3:18:18 PM

Link to video file - Obama at the bat.

http://www.floppingaces.net/2010/03/07/obama-at-the-bat



TheRumpledOne
6,358 posts
msg #89483
Ignore TheRumpledOne
3/12/2010 2:13:44 PM

IN MY INBOX TODAY:


Keep this in mind as our esteemed dictator continues to TRY to force an unwanted bill on this nation.

Pelosi has instructed Congress to vote for this bill and commit political suicide if that's what it takes.

The final straw is that Reid has inserted a provision into this bill that, after passage, ensures it can not be overturned -- not without years of wrangling as it works its way through the legal system.
S
~~~~~~~~~~~

--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Fred Ouellette wrote:

This letter appeared in the Indianapolis Star (which is owned by the same people who own the Arizona Republic) and was sent to a very popular Indiana Senator. This just goes to show everyone what pressure these Democrats are currently under, so continue to let them know how you feel about the healthcare bill.
Bill Stough
Shock to NBC This morning.



An Indianapolis doctor's letter to Sen. Bayh about the Bill (Note: Dr. Stephen E. Frazer, MD practices as an anesthesiologist in Indianapolis, IN )
Here is a letter I sent to Senator Bayh.. Feel free to copy it and send it around to all other representatives.
-- Stephen Fraser



Senator Bayh,

As a practicing physician I have major concerns with the health care bill before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the brazenness of the government's proposed involvement in the patient-physician relationship. The very idea that the government will dictate and ration patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a health care system that works for all. Every physician I work with agrees that we need to fix our health care system, but the proposed bills currently making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed.

I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.

Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self-insure!!

Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill: THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC benefits for you. You have no choice!

Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances & a 'National ID Health card' will be issued! (Papers please!)

Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer. (Time for more cash and carry)

Page 65 Sec 164: Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community organizations: (ACORN).

Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the 'Exchange.'

Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans -- The Govt will ration your health care!

Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. (Translation: illegal aliens.)

Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP members - your health care WILL be rationed!)
Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (Nochoice.)

Page 12 4 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt monopoly.

Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.

Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. (NO choice!)

Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees ANDtheir families. (Employees shouldn't get excited about this as employers will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to cover such a huge expense.)

Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last comment in parenthesis.)
Page 150 Lines 9-13: A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.

Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.)(Like always)

Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have access to ALL Americans' finances and personal records. (I guess so they can 'deduct' their fees)

Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!) ( a 'fee' instead)
Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.)

Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: It doesn't matter what specialty you have trained yourself in -- you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to tell me that's not Socialism!)

Page 253 Line 10-18: The Govt sets the value of a doctor's time, profession, judgment, etc. (Literally-- the value of humans.)

Page 265 Sec 1131: The Govt mandates and controls productivity for "private" HC industries.

Page 268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the Govt deems preventable (i.e...re-admissions).

Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -- the Govt will penalize you.

Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells doctors what and how much they can own!)

Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is mandating that hospitals cannot expand.)
Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?)

Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: The Govt mandates establishment of=2 outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want -- rationing.)
Page 341 Lines 3-9: The Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan)

Page 354 Sec 1177: The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs people!' Unbelievable!

Page 379 Sec 1191: The Govt creates more bureaucracy via a "Tele-Health Advisory Committee." (Can you say HC by phone?)

Page 425 Lines 4-12: The Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning Consult." (Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.)

Page 425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it's mandatory!)
Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an "approved" list of end-of-life resources; guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted suicide.')(Sounds like Soylent Green to me.)

Page 427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for orders on "end-of-life." (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!)

Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.

Page 429 Lines 10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans.. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)

Page 429 Lines 13-25: The GOVT will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. (I wouldn't want to stand before God after getting paid for THAT job!)

Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end-of-life! (Again -- no choice!)

Page 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit Organizations. (Hello? ACORN Medical Services here!?!)

Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy.(Which means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.)

Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.


Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills you and your colleagues are debating.

Furthermore, if you vote for a bill that enforces socialized medicine on the country and destroys the doctor-patient relationship, I will do everything in my power to make sure you lose your job in the next election.

Respectfully,

Stephen E. Fraser, MD

Dear Reader,

I urge you to use the power that you were born with (and the power that may soon be taken away) and circulate this email to as many people as you can reach. The Power of the People can stop this from happening to us, our parents, our grandparents, our children, and to following generations.

TheRumpledOne
6,358 posts
msg #89484
Ignore TheRumpledOne
3/12/2010 2:15:04 PM

chetron


THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, ALL THE REPORTS I SEE ARE PULLING FOLKS FROM THEIR RENTED APARTMENTS, U.S. LANDLORDS BEING ENRICHED, OR FROM THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT, U.S. COMPANIES BEING ENRICHED. THE ONLY REPORT I HAVE EVER SEEN, AND IT WASN'T FINE TENTS, BUT CARDBOARD BOXES, OF FOLKS LIVING ELSE WISE WAS THE MIGRANTE PICKS LIVING IN THE DIRT OF THE FIELDS THEY WERE PICKING, I JUST ASSUMED IT WAS WITH THE FARMERS PERMISSION. YOU ARE TRYING TO DIG UP MINUTIA TO TRY TO COVER YOUR DEEP ENGROUNDED HATRED.


HTH

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What would you do?



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