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duke56468
683 posts
msg #111538
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2/20/2013 9:14:01 AM

sohail....Here is how I trade the filter....If I am in cash I wait until 2 filters hit using mahkoh's composite filter on page 2. I enter the next morning at the open. When the exit hits I exit the next day at the open. I do not enter if both the entry and exit hit the same day even if 2 filters hit. The only way I have been able to backtest is to chose one specific filter and use that to represent the composite. Not ideal I know but I'm not much of an expert at this stuff.
Hope this helps

mahkoh
1,065 posts
msg #111540
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2/20/2013 9:32:48 AM

If you want to enter only when there is no exit add this to your filter

set{exit1, count(close reached a new 10 day high,1)}
set{exit2, count(ROC(15,1) is below ROC(15,1) 10 day high,1)}
set{exit, exit1 * exit2}
count(exit below 0.5,1) above 0

sohailmithani
192 posts
msg #111541
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2/20/2013 11:35:17 AM

Thanks Duke and Mahko really apreciate your response.

Duke one more clarification . Lets say yesterday you were holding six units of spy. End of today entries show 8 units of spy but it also shows the exit signal. In this case will you sell everything tomorrow and will not enter until the exit signal is gone and atleaset two buy signals are there?


sohailmithani
192 posts
msg #111560
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2/20/2013 10:22:00 PM

As per strategy are we supposed to buy 6 units of SSO?
THANKS

duke56468
683 posts
msg #111566
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2/21/2013 7:59:23 AM

sohail...I am taking a full position when 2 filters hit the trigger (not 6). I should say that I manually back tested this for 12 months and am now paper trading it before jumping in with cash (my usual procedure with any new strategy). This AM I will enter but decide based on the futures whether to enter at the open or wait (not true to the back test). Everyone needs to decide these things for them selves.

Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #111572
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2/21/2013 9:06:58 AM

NO. First, you would only buy units if there were buy signals at the end of the day. If there are simultaneous but and sell signals and you are already in on the same divergence trade, I would stay in. If there are current signals in play and no sell signal I would only enter if the Trades are neutral or at a better price.

And I do not advocate using SSO - the system was developed using the actual index (^SPX) and so SPY is the closest trade able proxy. If you use leverage the results will be different (could be better or worse, but will not be the same).

frsrblch
35 posts
msg #111653
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2/22/2013 1:07:59 PM

There seem to be many ways to trade these systems. It would behoove you to analyze different methods of trading with this system. Some people trade single filters, some trade when some number of them have triggered, and others invest incrementally as more filters trigger. You can buy when only the entry signal is triggered, and you can hold when both the entry and exit are triggered.

You can do whatever you want, but you'd be a fool to do anything without first checking it out yourself and deciding whether it's right for you. As Kevin put it: "All I will provide is the codes ... the rest is up to you."

shainadir
25 posts
msg #111654
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2/22/2013 1:25:34 PM

I only trade the signals on the filters with the highest sharp ratios, the SMI filter and QST filter and I trade them separately in that I will take each signal as a trade. For example, on 2/20 the QST gave a buy signal so I went long 1 unit of SSO the next morning. On 2/21 the SMI gave a buy signal so I went long this morning an additional unit of SSO. I will only trade just the 1 unit and will not add if there is another buy signal the next day or thereafter.

For the exits, I treat the signals a little differently. For the QST filter, when ever I get an exit signal, I will exit the trade...even if there is a buy signal the same day. For the SMI filter, I will only exit when the exit signal is given alone.

I will also set a stop loss of 5% based on SPY.

wkloss
231 posts
msg #111657
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2/22/2013 6:25:21 PM


Can Mahkoh's composite be backtested using Stockfetcher and if so, how do you code the exit rule?





Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #112040
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modified
3/4/2013 2:22:51 PM

Just noticed - the CMF Divergence filter triggered today.

Update at 3 PM: Now 5 filters are tirggering (CMF, WILLIAMS %R, Q-STICK, RMI, and STOCHASTICS). Looks like it is time to jump in again.

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