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msg #34558
Ignore EWZuber
12/27/2004 11:57:47 PM

Found this on a Raging Bull thread. Seems the SEC is finally getting serious about naked shorting of small and microcaps.

"The SEC Market Reformation…

The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) really has been on our TEAM all along. For years we thought as investors that we were out there all alone in the market because of years and years of many people being on the losing end from stocks being manipulated.

I received a very important phone call from the SEC that was very powerful. The info is so powerful that I deemed it would be selfish for me to not share such with those in here since our goals have always been to help each other as much as possible. What I am about to share might be known by some, but I am sure that it is not understood by most. This is concerning the true power and intentions behind Regulation Sho. There is more that I have not heard discussed by people and I think there are some things we are not seeing correctly by normally seeing the SEC unsuccessful attempts so often in the past.

What you are about to read are not my opinions. It is what I was told by the SEC and was given permission to share this information with you for a better understanding. I was told that they want our feedback so they will want to know if it worked or not in fixing what they knew was broke for years, but just recently discovered how to resolve.

The pressure is on the Market Makers (MMs) to do what is right because all eyes will be placed on them. There will be many key Federal Authorities, Economists, Mathematicians, etc. that are already lined up to be performing certain studies for historical purposes. All the MMs have to do to not make matters worse is to do what is right and fix what they had broken for years with any fully reporting company that’s a threshold security as soon as possible. Let me explain a bit further to show you how this will work.

First understand that the SEC always wanted to help us shareholders, but never knew how to do so. They had always received many complaints, but never knew how they could trap the MMs to simply do what was right. The shorting and naked shorting had gotten out of hand as I will explain both.

The Naked Shorting
With the implementation of Regulation Sho, the MMs will be forced to close out their open naked short position on all stocks that meet the Regulation Sho requirements for coverage. They will have to do this everyday by midnight beginning on 3 Jan 05.

This leads us to talk about the requirements as some are already familiar. A stock must be fully reporting and considered a threshold security. A threshold security is one where .5% of its outstanding shares (OS) have been proven to have been naked shorted for 5 consecutive trading days and where the MMs have failed to close out those positions for five consecutive trading days.

Example: If stock ABCD had 2,000,000 shares outstanding and was a fully reporting company as of 3 Jan 05, the MMs would need to fail to close out the open naked shorted position of .5% of 2,000,000 shares which would equate to 10,000 shares not being “completely” covered for 5 consecutive trading days. This means that the MMs would need to make sure they don’t allow 5 consecutive days to happen where they leave any balance remaining of the 10,000 naked shorted shares as an open account of stock ABCD. They must “completely” close all open accounts of naked shorted positions.

For proper accountability of all of this to work, the SEC will have to have a coordinated TEAM effort from key entities within the market as authorities. The SEC, Depository Trust Company (DTC), brokerage companies, all market exchanges, the fully reporting companies, and their transfer agents will all be working together to make sure all the proper coordination take place for Regulation Sho to work.

Coordination will take place with the fully reporting company (and their transfer agent if they have one) to make sure there is a full accountability of what’s their OS. The facts will be reflected in the company’s SEC filing which is why it is essential for them to be a fully reporting company.

The DTC will be responsible for informing the SEC where the open sales exist as in the amount of shares existing that have transacted through them that they placed into our brokerage accounts. This was a problem before because many relied on the DTC to give them more than this information to help resolve this issue sooner.

This is where the brokerage companies come in along with the help from the exchanges. The SEC will be further detailing and defining their information of transacted shares from the DTC by having revealed to them the guilty MM that have transacted the naked short position from information received from the brokerage companies and all of the market exchanges. This is proving to be something bigger than what many of us had realized. Let me explain why.

All of this brings us back to something I discussed earlier. When the supply of shares of a stock is zero, the supply is zero. It doesn’t matter how you get there, be it by a naked short position or by the float being absorbed. This is where it all starts as a short squeeze will now be formed and grows as demand to purchase shares increase. This is where the misperception exists with Regulation Sho. People think that a new naked short position has to be created as of 3 Jan 05 in order for a stock to be eligible for protection and rectification under Regulation Sho. This is not true. It’s even better. All naked short positions of the past will not go away and must be dealt with. The clock begins ticking for covering on 3 Jan 05 for fully reporting companies. PERIOD!!! This means that any stock that has been naked shorted will automatically start out in a forced short squeeze mode that will only escalate the longer the MMs wait to cover.

Any buying pressure will cause the increase of the naked shorted position to grow to begin approaching the 5 day consecutive window of not getting covered by the MMs. After the 5 days transpire where the MMs have failed to deliver and close the open naked shorted position, that stock in which they failed to deliver will be placed on a Threshold Security List for the public to view. This is where it starts to get awesome.

Example: Let’s say stock ABCD, a fully reporting company, was trading at .01 cent and had an OS of 1,000,000 shares. Let’s say that stock ABCD have been naked shorted by 1,000,000 shares over the OS/float of 1,000,000 shares. Come 3 Jan 05 the MMs will not be forced to “possibly” immediately cover the 1,000,000 naked shorted shares. Here’s the beauty of this and where the MMs are currently mad at everyone about. Don’t worry, they will make money, but in a different way as we might talk about later.

With no buying pressure, they won’t have to cover as soon as one might have hoped as shares are sold exceeding the amount of shares being bought for stock ABCD. Still, if they don’t cover the “entire” 1,000,000 naked short position for 5 consecutive days, stock ABCD will show up on the Threshold Security List for the public to view on 10 Jan 05. After such, the MMs have 13 days to close out the “entire” naked shorted position or face being suspended and/or shut down from that security and other penalties to possibly put that MM out of business. The end result will still be the supply being zero and the stock would be forced to be traded correctly based on supply and demand with an already dried up supply. This means the creation of an instant short squeeze!

What I anticipate happening, and the SEC, is that in the above example with stock ABCD, the MMs will need to get the 1,000,000 naked shorted shares out of circulation by increasing the bid to entice shareholders to sell. The problem comes when they allow for the buying to outweigh the selling due to increased demand for the stock. As orders are placed to buy shares, they must be filled by the MMs. This will worsen their problem when nobody is selling. As the MMs make the mistake and allow for any stock to be placed on the Threshold Security List, it will publicly reveal where the MMs are already having a problem in covering. Us as shareholders will see this list and contribute with forcing the short squeezes for every stock on the list.

If they raised stock ABCD to .50 cents and there was more buying than selling than no ground would have been gained by the MMs. They only gain ground when there is more selling than buying that exists.

IMPORTANT: So where is the “Threshold Security List” that we all will be looking for? This is how we all get a chance to help the MMs reap what they sowed. Go to…

… to see the Threshold Security list beginning on 10 Jan 05 and review it daily. Any stock that you see on that list “should” immediately present a wonderful buying opportunity by being in an instant short squeeze scenario. The MM guilty of the naked shorting will have a hard time from not generating enough selling by enticing the bid high enough for shareholders to sell to out weigh the buying to allow for a covering to transpire.

Again, I do not believe that all MMs are bad and I am not posting this to lead some type of crusade against the MMs. Remember, all we ever wanted was for the MMs to trade the stocks we invest into fairly as investor/traders in the market. Without the MMs, there would not be a market and all the SEC is doing is making sure the MMs create and maintain an orderly market, fairly. This Regulation Sho is something that is long over due.

The Shorting
The shorting of stocks are referring to the Pilot Program that was delayed to begin on 2 May 05 and will last for one year through 2 May 06. This is where they will be selecting 1,000 stocks to use for an SEC experiment that they call the “Tick Test.”

Example: Imagine stock ABCD trading at $10.00 per share. Let’s say you now decide to short stock ABCD at $10.00 per share by buying through shorting 1,000 shares. You really just borrowed $10,000 to short stock ABCD to buy 1,000 shares. Two days later, let’s say stock ABCD drops to trade at $8.00 per share. You now decide to cover your short in stock ABCD and sell your 1,000 shares back to the market to have them delivered at $8.00 per share for a total of $8,000. You cover by paying back the 1,000 shares you borrowed, but since the price dropped down to $8.00 per share, your cost for paying back the 1,000 shares of stock ABCD will be $8,000. Since it’s mostly all about the share amount and not the dollar amount for covering in the eyes of the MM, you would profit the $2,000 difference from using the proper timing for delivery of the 1,000 shares.

The SEC will be doing a study on 1,000 stocks while examining these stocks to see how and why certain problems have existed throughout the market with the delivery of the shorted positions. What they have come to find out is that there is a problem that exists with somebody shorting a stock as reflected above and never delivering the funds to cover the shorted position whether the stock goes up or down. They have come to find out that somewhere and somehow the intentions to later deliver never existed. The Pilot program is being designed to get to the bottom of this.

The opportunity that we have here with the rectification of the naked shorting and shorting of stocks is something that will go down in history for the better in fixing something that was broke for a long time. The primary objective is to have an orderly and fair market for those stocks that are legitimate and trying to actually grow to trade fairly on its own merit of supply and demand principles and not on manipulation of choice.

Bottom line, any stock falling under the protection umbrella of Regulation Sho will automatically begin trading under a short squeeze scenario due to its supply of shares immediately being zero. How huge the short squeeze materializes is predicated upon how soon or how long the MM that is guilty of naked shorting decides to take for covering. Whenever the “demand for buying” exceeds the “demand for selling” within that naked shorted security, the MM will have a very difficult time in covering by the mandated time frames allocated. Added buying pressure will only compound the dilemma for the MM.

I am expecting Jan 05 to be the best month in the history of the market for opportunities for prosperity because of Regulation Sho. We are about to be part of a positive piece of history. I hope the above info have helped many to see what is the importance of making sure you are positioned and well planned for strategic moves to be made in the market to capture the opportunity for prosperity. We all must prepare and plan now if we can afford to do so. People don’t plan on failing, they fail to plan. May we all become prosperous! "

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msg #34682
Ignore jficquette
1/2/2005 2:18:18 PM


Thank you for this information. I confused though. Please explain what naked shorting is. It is simply shorting without actually borrowing the shares. Like shorting "air"?.

Thank you


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msg #34684
Ignore jficquette
1/2/2005 3:00:09 PM


I understand now. My problem with it was I though that this was being done already. I had no idea that MM were floating new stock by selling unaccounted for shares. Unbelievable.

I firmly believe that the only reason we have a stock market is for fleecing the public. Why else would we even have a market if not for that reason?? How else could you gurantee a profit if you didn't have the deck stacked in your favor??

I love the stock market.


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msg #34687
Ignore EWZuber
1/2/2005 4:27:52 PM

yes it's not just MM's though. There are several brokerages implicated in this scheme also. Basically they are counterfeiting shares to sell. They can counterfeit any number they want to and some microcaps have been driven into extinction with this and ripping off shareholders.

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