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wantonellis
102 posts
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5/10/2010 7:20:08 PM



chetron
2,817 posts
msg #92427
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5/10/2010 7:38:05 PM

the racism couldn't get more blatant.

wantonellis
102 posts
msg #92429
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5/10/2010 8:06:22 PM



chetron
2,817 posts
msg #92431
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5/10/2010 8:21:26 PM

you say no such thing as an illegal canedien in mass. and there are only a few low profile irish in the small town of boston, you don't care as long as they look like you.

wantonellis
102 posts
msg #92432
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5/10/2010 8:51:58 PM



chetron
2,817 posts
msg #92433
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5/10/2010 9:13:19 PM

point proven, illegal immigration is increasingly irrelevent as those folk are more like you, to the point that they don't even exist

TheRumpledOne
6,358 posts
msg #92434
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5/10/2010 9:22:52 PM

Thank you for posting this:

http://immigrationcounters.com/




TheRumpledOne
6,358 posts
msg #92435
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5/10/2010 9:26:16 PM

chetron


david, whether someone is documented or not doesn't determine a person's actions. in all populations, you will have good and bad. i am in massachusetts and we have big problem with undocumented canedien's and irish folk, you don't see any outrage??????


no one seems to post or create fbi websites to oust them.

======================================================

How BIG is the problem?

If they are illegal, they need to go.

Please let the world know how big the problem is in MA. I'll be happy to help spread the word.

We should treat ALL immigrants like Mexico does:

At present, Article 67 of Mexico's Population Law says, "Authorities, whether federal, state or municipal ... are required to demand that foreigners prove their legal presence in the country, before attending to any issues."

That would simplify things.

We do NOT need immigration reform. We need immigration ENFORCEMENT!

WAKE UP AMERICA AND SMELL THE HYPOCRISY

TheRumpledOne
6,358 posts
msg #92436
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5/10/2010 10:18:29 PM

Civil rights and double standards: Gun owners are forced to "show papers," but media say illegal aliens shouldn't have to

By Tim Inwood

I've been watching with some interest the fallout over the new Arizona law dealing with illegal aliens. I hear the news media moaning that the new law "makes it a crime to be an illegal alien." I'm not joking, that is exactly how they phrased it on several networks and cable news shows. Wow, that is what I always thought illegal meant. I really wish the media would think about what they utter.

I hear President Obama, the ACLU and liberals in general say that to ask someone to show identification to prove they are an American citizen is a violation of their civil rights. These same folks, as I recall, told us that asking someone to show ID when voting is a violation of their civil rights as well.

So now I am a bit confused. With such a broad definition of what a civil right is, and the slightest inconvenience in enforcing the law an outrage, will someone please explain something to me? Why, when using the above logic, that when exercising your civil right to buy and own a gun you have to show identification and undergo a background check to purchase that gun? After all, the U.S. Supreme Court told us in the 2008 Heller decision that gun ownership is a constitutionally protected civil right. Also, tell me why when it comes to bearing those arms, a specifically enumerated constitutionally protected right, we must take concealed carry classes, pay high fees and again undergo additional background checks, fingerprinting and submit a specific size photograph to the state to do something specifically protected by the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and Article 1 section 4 of Ohio's Constitution. Was not turning a right into a state-issued privilege a violation of our rights?

As I am writing this I am watching politicians and media talking heads saying this new law in Arizona is pure fascism and Nazi-like demands to "show their papers." Oh really!

As a concealed handgun license-holder in Ohio, in any encounter with a police officer I am required under penalty of law to disclose I am a CHL-holder (if I am carrying), and then show identification. Funny how I don't see my fellow CHL holders protesting or rioting over that.

Prior to 1968 in the United States, citizens in most states could buy firearms via mail order with no identification. You just clipped out the ad, told the dealer what you wanted, sent in your check and your postal carrier delivered the gun to your door, with ammo if you ordered that too. I am old enough to remember those days. However, all that ended with the Gun Control Act of 1968, a law largely written by Democrat Senator Thomas Dodd, father of current Senator Chris Dodd. The 1968 U.S. law was largely based on a gun control law written in 1938 that Dodd Sr. learned about while serving on the staff of those prosecuting war criminals in Nuremberg following World War II. That law forced firearm purchasers to show identification "papers" and registry of those arms. Who wrote this law? The National Socialist German government! That is where we got the U.S. 1968 Gun Control Act! That is inarguably a Nazi piece of legislation where you do have to show "papers." So I have to ask, where is the screaming and gnashing of teeth about that Nazi law?

Where is the media's and President Obama's outrage over this truly NAZI violation of civil rights? I'd love to hear the tortured logic. After all, the crime rate among American gun owners is far lower than that of illegal aliens.

Meanwhile, let's enforce the laws and protect our borders.

Tim Inwood is the current Legislative Liaison and Past President of the Clinton County Farmers and Sportsmen Association, an Endowment Member of the NRA and Life Member of the OGCA, Republican Central Committeeman for Chester Township A, in Clinton County, Ohio, and a volunteer for Buckeye Firearms Association.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7252

awj11669
14 posts
msg #92437
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5/10/2010 10:19:43 PM

Is the truth racist again?? Lets just ruin are country so we can get political correctness right.


WHY is the USA BANKRUPT?

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.

I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until the y are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading the m. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts...

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and the y cannot speak a word of English!

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt..0.HTML

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML


7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML


9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20RI%20PTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, the ir children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt..01.HTML < http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt..01.HTML%3E;




11. During the year of 2005 the re were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the US from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report:

12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'

Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute..org/PDF/deportation.PDF

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to the ir countries of origin.

Verify at: http://www ... rense.com/general75/niht.htm < http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm%3E;

14.. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'

Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml < http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml%3E; http://ww/ % 20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.

Are we THAT stupid? YES, FOR LETTING THOSE IN THE U.S.CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!








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