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msg #94839
Ignore skareem
7/16/2010 3:04:05 PM

Greetings all,
I am wondering if anybody had tried trading MLPs or know of the implications surrounding trading them?

I understand that day traders need to have volume in the stock they trade and MLPs don't provide for that but if you have a longer time horizon than days, the same effect would be experienced? -- Am I right here?

Also, will there be any implications on tax day when you sit down to figure out what the F*** you had done the past year?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

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msg #94842
Ignore four
7/16/2010 5:44:30 PM


DCP Midstream Partners, LP has this info on their site:



A number of closed-end stock funds trade on the exchanges that hold MLPs exclusively. These closed-end-fund (CEF) MLPs get a different tax treatment than a regular MLP, and require different documentation at tax time. For instance, shareholders in these CEFs receive a Form 1099 rather than a Schedule K-1.

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msg #94906
Ignore Eman93
7/18/2010 11:42:30 PM

Master limited partnership (MLP) is a limited partnership that is publicly traded on a securities exchange. It combines the tax benefits of a limited partnership with the liquidity of publicly traded securities.

Master Limited Partnerships are limited by US Code to only apply to enterprises that engage in certain businesses, mostly pertaining to the use of natural resources, such as petroleum and natural gas extraction and transportation. Some real estate enterprises may also qualify as MLPs.

Some private equity management companies such as Blackstone Group (NYSE: BX) and Fortress Investment Group (NYSE: FIG) are structured as MLPs.

In practice, MLPs pay their investors through quarterly required distributions (QRD), the amount of which is stated in the contract between the limited partners (the investors) and the general partner (the managers). Failure to pay the QRD may constitute an event of default.

Because of such stringent provisions on MLPs, and the nature of the QRD, the vast majority of MLPs are pipeline businesses, which earn very stable income from the transport of oil, gasoline or natural gas.

Because MLPs are a partnership, they avoid the corporate income tax, on both a state and federal basis. Additionally, the limited partner (investor) may also record a pro-rated share of the MLP's depreciation on his or her own tax forms to reduce liability. This is the primary benefit of MLPs and gives MLPs relatively cheap funding costs.

However, this makes MLPs unattractive to tax-deferred funds, who must lose this tax saving advantage. To encourage tax-deferred investors, many MLPs set up corporation holding companies of LP claims which can issue common equity.

An example is the pipeline company Kinder Morgan Energy Partners. The main corporation, Knight, Inc. (formerly traded on the NYSE as KMI), is the operator of the pipelines and other assets. However, the pipelines themselves are owned by the MLP Kinder Morgan Energy Partners, L.P. (NYSE:KMP). Finally, part of KMP's limited partner interests are held by the corporation Kinder Morgan Management LLC (NYSE:KMR) which allows tax-deferred investors to participate in KMP's operations.

Usually, in the MLP structure, the general partner starts with a small (usually 2%) stake in the company but is given incentive distributions from net income after the QRD. Since these distributions are usually paid in the form of increased equity claims, over time, this allows the general partner to attain higher and higher percentage of ownership in the company.

In May of 2010, the first ever MLP mutual fund was launched, with a stated goal of providing "a high level of inflation-protected income currently through a 7.8 percent distribution yield, which is higher than equity alternatives such as REITs and Utilities." The fund is a part of the SteelPath Mutual Fund Family. [1]

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